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Re: the alleged evils of NAT, was Rate of growth on IPv6 not fast enough?


From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:49:29 +0930

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:04:25 -0500
Dave Pooser <dave.nanog () alfordmedia com> wrote:

IPv6's fundamental goal is to restore end-to-end.

For some. For many, IPv6's fundamental goal is to keep doing what we've been
doing without running out of addresses. The fact that the two camps have
orthogonal goals is probably part of the reason the rate of growth on IPv6
is so slow.

Well they should realise that end-to-end is what made the Internet the
success in the first place. On the Original Internet, when you had an
IP address, one moment you could be a client, another you could be a
server, or another you could be a peer - or you could be any or all
three roles at the same time. What role you wanted to play was
completely and absolutely up to you - no third parties to ask
permission of, no router upgrades involved. You just started the
(client/server/peer-to-peer) software, and off you went.

The applications exist at the edge of the Internet - in the software
operating on the end-nodes. The Internet itself is supposed to
be a dumb, best effort packet transport between the edges - nothing
more. That is why the Original Internet was good at running any
application you threw at it, including new ones - because it never
cared what those applications were. It just tried to do it's job of
getting packets from edge sources to edge destinations, regardless of
what was in them.





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