Re: legacy /8

["John Palmer \(NANOG Acct\)" <nanog2 () adns net>]

On the topic of IP4 exhaustion:  1/8, 2/8 and 5/8 have all been assigned in the
last 3 months yet I don't see them being allocated out to customers (users) yet.

Is this perhaps a bit of hoarding in advance of the complete depletion of /8's?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa () latt net>
To: "Jeroen van Aart" <jeroen () mompl net>
Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: legacy /8


> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 02:01:45PM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> > I am curious. Once we're nearing exhausting all IPv4 space will
> > there ever come a time to ask/demand/force returning all these
> > legacy /8 allocations? I think I understand the difficulty in that,
> > but then running out of IPs is also a difficult issue. :-)
> >
> > For some reason I sooner see all IPv4 space being exhausted than
> > IPv6 being actually implemented globally.
>
> Because it's no more than a delaying action.  Even presuming
> you get people to cooperate (and they really, have no incentive to
> because they don't necessarily have any agreement covering the space
> with the RIRs) rather than fire up their legal department....
>
> A couple of /8s doesn't last long enough to really make a dent
> in the pain.  You might buy yourself a few months at most.
>
> It might actually do more harm than good, by convincing people
> that they can still get v4 space rather than worry about what they
> are going to do in the future.
>
> --msa