RE: DMCA takedowns of networks

["John van Oppen" <john () vanoppen com>]

I think that is a pretty standard procedure.   We generally give our
users 12 hours to remove the content before we null-route the IP...
The only time this does not apply is with active spam sources, simple
and quite effective.


Thanks,


John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks LLC
Direct: 206.973.8302
Main: 206.973.8300
Website: http://spectrumnetworks.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgreco () ns sol net] 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: Brian Johnson
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Re: DMCA takedowns of networks

> > > So why are we having this discussion?
> >
> > Because it appears that HE took down non-infringing sites?
> >
> > Excuse me for stating the obvious.  :-)
> >
> > ... JG
> > --
> > Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
>
> On the technical side of this question...
>
> Let's say that a customer is doing virtual hosting. So they have a
bunch
> of sites (Let's say hundreds) on a single IP address. Given that one
of
> the sites is misbehaving (use your own definition), how would a
provider
> block the one site, without blocking others that share the same IP
> address, without looking at every port 80 request and parsing for the
> header for the URL?
>
> Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing?

Sure.  Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose their
connectivity.

Sometimes it can be both simple *and* obvious.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and]
then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail
spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many
apples.