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Re: Nanog Mentioned in TED Video: Jonathan Zittrain


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:01:58 -0700


On Oct 25, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

On Oct 25, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Oct 24, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Israel Lopez-LISTS wrote:

Remember when youtube went down?
Mr. Zittrain briefly mentions nanog during his TED talk in July 2009.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_zittrain_the_web_is_a_random_act_of_kindness.html

Been discussed.

He's obviously wrong about some things. No one does anything without getting paid. But he is kinda right in some ways too.

Lots of us actually do lots of things without getting paid.

Mea culpa!  You are (most obviously) correct.

I meant to say "no one passes a packet without getting paid", specifically in response to his passing the beer in the stadium analogy.

Hurricane Electric offers free IPv6 transit to virtually anyone. We also provide IPv4 transit for free to a number of non-profit and
community benefit organizations.

While it is true there are a few packets passed without payment, I'm pretty sure it's 0% of the total, to several decimal places.

Maybe 2 or 3 decimal places, but, I honestly don't have the exact statistic.

Owen

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