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RE: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE accused of aiding RBN
From: "Martin, Paul" <Paul.Martin () viatel com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:23:16 +0100
So considering they're widely regarded as a criminal network hosting the more dodgy/dangerous stuff on the net, surely we could 'protect' our customers by blocking the 91.202.60.0/22 range? Consider that can of worms opened :o) Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon () blacklotus net] Sent: 24 October 2009 08:18 To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE accused of aiding RBN Since we're on the subject, here is where RBN went: inetnum: 91.202.60.0 - 91.202.63.255 netname: AKRINO-NET descr: Akrino Inc country: VG org: ORG-AI38-RIPE admin-c: IVM27-RIPE tech-c: IVM27-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PI mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT mnt-routes: MNT-AKRINO mnt-domains: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered organisation: ORG-AI38-RIPE org-name: Akrino Inc org-type: OTHER address: Akrino Inc. address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers address: Road Town, Tortola address: BVI e-mail: noc.akrino () gmail com mnt-ref: MNT-AKRINO mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered person: Igoren V Murzak address: Akrino Inc address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers address: Road Town, Tortola address: BVI phone: +1 914 5952753 e-mail: noc.akrino () gmail com nic-hdl: IVM27-RIPE mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '91.202.60.0/22AS44571' route: 91.202.60.0/22 descr: AKRINO BLOCK origin: AS44571 mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists () gmail com> wrote:
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/russian-police-and-internet-registry-a ccused-of-aiding-cybercrime-2165
Some quotes from the article - Internet registry RIPE NCC turned a blind eye to cybercrime, and
Russian police
corruption helped the perpetrators get away with it, according to the
UK
Serious Organised Crime Agency [...] "RIPE was being paid by RBN for that service, for its IP allocation,"
he said.
"Essentially what you have - and I make no apologies for saying this
is - if
you were going to interpret this very harshly RIPE as the IP
allocation body
was receiving criminal funds and therefore RIPE was involved in money laundering offences," said Auld. [...] "All we could get there was a disruption, we weren't able to get a
prosecution
in Russia," admitted Auld. "Our biggest concern is where did RBN go?
Our
information suggests that RBN is back in business but now pursuing a
slightly
different business model which is bad news." [...] "Where you have got LIRs (Local Internet Registries) set up to run a
criminal
business- that is criminal actvity being taken by the regional
internet
registries themselves. "So what we are trying to do is work with them
to make
internet governance a somewhat less permissive environment for
criminals and
make it more about protecting consumers and individuals," added Auld. RBN looked legitimate, says RIPE NCC In response to the comments that it could be accused of being involved
in
criminal activity, Paul Rendek, head of external relations and
communications
at RIPE NCC said that the organisation has very strict guidelines for
dealing
with LIRs. "The RBN was accepted as an LIR based on our checklists," he said."
Our
checklists include the provision of proof that a prospective LIR has
the
necessary legal documentation, which proves that a business is bona
fide."
etc
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