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Re: operations contact @ facebook?
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 12:50:02 -0400
On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Leland Vandervort wrote:Clearly I do not have all the information, so please forgive me for being confused. But since when do I[*] have to ask you before I put an application on my server? If FB put an application on your server, that seems like something you should have known up front.Would anyone happen to have an operations contact at Facebook byanychance? Our systems are being overwhelmed by a facebook applicationthat we were neither aware of nor condoned.The original poster is from Paris. Do consider the possibility that there are different jurisdictional rules or service terms in force from your own.
I certainly did not. And I would suggest we refuse to do so as an industry.
The UN lists 192 countries, and there are several others (e.g. Vatican City, Scotland, etc.) which others may count. Many of these have provinces or states or whatever, and almost all have cities, towns, counties, etc., each of which may have its own laws & regulations.
Operationally speaking (see, this is on-topic :), trying to consider every single one of those possible laws, rules, social norms, preferences, political slants, religious authorities, and whatever else may come into the mix when putting an object or code onto the Internet is simply not possible. Giving in to it, even a little bit, leads to ridiculous restrictions and stifling of many things on the 'Net. We should all push back HARD whenever someone over here tries to tell someone over there what to do.
The OP responded with a quite reasonable answer (shared infrastructure) that had nothing to do with local jurisdiction. That is an operational issue. What laws your country, province, county, town, or church has set up for you should have zero operational impact on me if my gear is not in the same place.
And maybe someday we can even get away from that whole "in the same place" idea. (Hey, one can dream.)
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- operations contact @ facebook? Leland Vandervort (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Alex Balashov (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Alex Balashov (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Alex Balashov (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Justin Wilson - MTIN (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Leland Vandervort (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Jon Lewis (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Joe Greco (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Benjamin Billon (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Justin M. Streiner (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Leland Vandervort (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Alexander Harrowell (Oct 05)
- Re: operations contact @ facebook? Leland Vandervort (Oct 05)