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Re: Smartcard and non-password methods (was Re: Password repository)


From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:57:55 -0600

John Levine wrote:
Are passwords still the only lowest-common-denominator?

There's OpenID, where a provider can use any verification process it
wants, but all the OpenID providers I know use ordinary passwords.


Yeah, and every ISP would probably use key authentication, except there's not a simple distribution method for the multitude of ways clients might connect and handling temporary issues such as a customer connecting from a public site via webmail.

So if a customer needs a password to retrieve or unlock a cert, they see no reason for a cert. This shows in the limited support for client certificates in standard software. Due to the limited support and increased overhead in supporting getting a client cert installed, they end up not being used.

The same could be said for other protocols, though. Kerberos rocks, even does good with M$ networks, but there is no click and have fun kerberos support that I've seen for ISP networks.

On the other hand, even with a very hands free implementation, I'm sure people would complain "but I want to let my son authenticate to this with my username/password, but not have access to this." Obviously, such a problem is best solved with "son" having his own auth, which may have different resources than the parent's, which is easily maintained and billable based on the resources actually required (see any number of Profile setups on fee based services; ie, netflix).


Jack (off topic, and annoyed with the way we do things today)


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