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RE: Leap second tonight


From: Deepak Jain <deepak () ai net>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:31:52 -0400

Not being a time geek, since Cisco's were called out for being wild
jitter-mongers... how much jitter are we talking about?

Clock is synchronized, stratum 2, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
nominal freq is 250.0000 Hz, actual freq is 249.9989 Hz, precision is
2**18
reference time is CD6A7CD4.45A9BB00 (19:47:32.272 UTC Tue Mar 17
2009)
clock offset is 2.0581 msec, root delay is 29.62 msec
root dispersion is 6.81 msec, peer dispersion is 3.30 msec

Are we talking about +/- 30 seconds, or a problem bounded by +/- 30
msec?

I've actually been gathering some statistics on this using Munin
(http://munin.projects.linpro.no/) on my linux server. There's
currently 10 ntp servers being monitored and one of them is a 7600-
series Cisco, which is handling quite a bit of traffic (CPU load around
20%). Here are the Munin graphs for it http://dx.fi/alt/ntp/7600.png
(times in Finnish time, UTC+2).

In comparison, here are the same graphs for time1.mikes.fi (a stratum-2
clock provided by the Finnish Centre for metrology and accreditation)
http://dx.fi/alt/ntp/time1.mikes.fi.png and for Netnods stratum-1 clock
in Stockholm http://dx.fi/alt/ntp/ntp1.sth.netnod.se.png


In an NTP scenario, where each device is keeping its own time, and being "disciplined" by 
several others... don't these spikes of jitter get wiped away -- especially when
multiple NTP sources are used?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I thought that was the point of trying to keep precise time 
via an imprecise network [the jitter could easily be congestion in the case of long
haul links] was that this can be mathematically worked out to a level of precision.

Is a Cisco device lying when it says it has 2^18th precision? 

Are we just comparing and stating that between each sample from any one NTP device we might
see wildly differently levels of accuracy/precision and the truly diligent time keeper will
discipline his clocks with multiple readings over time?

Thanks,

Deepak



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