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Re: Redundant AS's


From: Henk Uijterwaal <henk () ripe net>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:18:59 +0100

tvest () eyeconomics com wrote:

On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Simon Brilus wrote:

Out of interest, is there a report that details the number of unused older AS's in the Internet and what is being done to recover them to recycle, as we approach the 53k mark and the 32 bit numbering scheme, it strikes me that we probably have a lot of stagnant AS's out there due to takeovers etc..

Any thoughts?

Simon

It's a bit dated now, but the RIPE report, ASN MIA, sounds like what you're looking for... www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/routing/routing-pres-uijterwaal-asn-mia.ppt

When I look at this more recently, the conclusion still seems to be
valid: we'll run out of 16 bit ASN's somewhere in 2011 to 2013.  There
are a lot of unused ASN's out there.  Recovering them will postpone the
problem by a few years but it won't solve it.  The basic problem with
recovery is how to decide if an ASN is really no longer used/needed.
There is (still) no mechanism to do this.

Henk

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