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Re: One /22 Two ISP no BGP


From: Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 11:45:02 -0600

Could Charlie do long haul microwave to someone who can do BGP?

On 2/14/09, Francois Menard <francois () menards ca> wrote:
The rule with ARIN is that you only need to demonstrate that you WANT
do do multihoming, not that you WILL do multihoming.

That question would be better asked on the ARIN policy mailing list.
I'm also on that list.

That was cleared with ARIN as part of the process to get that /22

I guess ARIN rightly assumes that most ISPs do want to do BGP with
their customers...

F.
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On 13-Feb-09, at 6:48 PM, Charles Regan wrote:

The problem we have now is that we got our /22 from arin to do
multihoming.
If we dump tlb, no more multihoming? No /22. Is that correct?

We also have a contract with tlb.
$$$ 1.5yrs left...






2009/2/13, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us>:
Charles Regan wrote:
Isp2 is vtl not bell

2009/2/13, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us>:
Charles Regan wrote:
Just got final confirmation from ISP1 that they will not do BGP
with us.

ISP1 is Telebec.
http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=142.217.0.0&submit=Go

My subnet
http://www.iptools.com/dnstools.php?tool=ipwhois&user_data=204.144.60.0&submit=Go

What can we do now ? Any suggestions ?

Do you know who is upstream of ISP2? We've established that
Telebec is
only connected to Bell Canada. If ISP2 also has a connection to
Bell
then you don't gain anything with Telebec except this huge mess and
horrible hacks to work around their lack of BGP.

~Seth




Also, VTL peers with Sprint and SAVVIS. Based on this information I'd
just drop Telebec completely. They only have one upstream. You
won't get
any redundancy with them since they're just giving you a connection
to
Bell, which VTL already gives you. Here's the view from my SAVVIS
router
with Sprint as the preferred path:

routy-border0>show ip bgp 216.113.0.0/17
BGP routing table entry for 216.113.0.0/17, version 78286019
Paths: (3 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
 Not advertised to any peer
 1239 5769, (received & used)
   208.79.242.129 (metric 3) from 208.79.242.129 (208.79.242.129)
     Origin IGP, metric 439, localpref 100, valid, internal, best
     Community: 11170:1239
 3561 5769
   216.88.158.93 from 216.88.158.93 (206.24.210.102)
     Origin IGP, localpref 90, valid, external
     Community: 3561:11840 11170:3561
 3561 5769, (received-only)
   216.88.158.93 from 216.88.158.93 (206.24.210.102)
     Origin IGP, localpref 90, valid, external
     Community: 3561:11840


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