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Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure


From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:05:50 -0800

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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com>
wrote:

Folks should not be so obtuse about these activities. It's almost
blatantly in-your-face, so to speak. These guys have no fear of
retribution.

no real arguement, but... 'please provide some set of workable solutions'


First question: Solution(s) for which problem(s)?

The ARIN meetings (at least) are open, please come and help guide
policies. I'm sure RIPE also wouldn't mind a discussion, if there
could be some positive policy outcome.


Frankly, there simply is not enough hours in the day for what I already do,
and trying to add "policy foo" to my laundry list of stuff just isn't going
to happen.

Many of us have already tried to engage ICANN on domain registration issues
(primarily bad registrars and policy cruft), as well as RIRs, etc., to no
avail.

I've simply given up on trying to make a dent in policy issues because
profit trumps everything else, plus -- as I said -- I just have no spare
cycles.

I have taken a different set of tactics to go after criminal activities...
policy stuff doesn't work.

- - ferg

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 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawgster(at)gmail.com
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