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Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure


From: Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:24:26 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Phil Regnauld wrote:

http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/attackers-buying-own-data-centers-botnets-spam-122109

It this something new ?  The article seems to mix various issues together.
And this would seem highly inefficient to me compared to traditional
botnets (renting your own rack for a botnet doesn't really make sense :)

I don't see how going to jump.ro, getting a bunch of IP assignments, and then setting those IPs up on a server or few servers in the US = "attackers buying own data centers".

I am curious how both jump.ro and the other RIPE region LIRs involved in assigning the space and the US based networks that have been involved routing it justify assigning/routing "Assigned PA" space to "customers" who only use that space in their US operations (which in the cases I've seen have primarily been high volume email deployment).

According to http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv4-policies.html

 ASSIGNED PA: This address space has been assigned to an End User for use
 with services provided by the issuing LIR. It cannot be kept when
 terminating services provided by the LIR.

Should US based networks be willing to route RIPE "ASSIGNED PA" space customers provide?

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