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Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky


From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:58:55 -0400

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:07:30 -0400 (EDT)
"John R. Levine" <johnl () iecc com> wrote:

5 is 'edns ping', but it was effectively blocked because people
thought DNSSEC would be easier to do, or demanded that EDNS PING
(http://edns-ping.org) would offer everything that DNSSEC offered.

    I'm surprised you failed to mention
http://dnscurve.org/crypto.html, which is always brought up, but
never seems to solve the problems mentioned.

dnscurve looks like a swell idea, but I wouldn't put it in the
category of a hack as straightforward as the ones I listed.  Also, at
this point there appears to be neither code nor an implementable spec
available since Dan is still fiddling with it.

As I understand it, dnscurve protects transmissions, not objects.
That's not the way DNS operates today, what with N levels of cache.  It
may or may not be better, but it's a much bigger delta to today's
systems and practices than DNSSEC is.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb


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