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Re: route flap dampening


From: David Storandt <dstorandt () teljet com>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:13:09 -0400

We're using Cisco 6509 MSFC2s for core engines with three 85% route
feeds and Cisco-default route flap suppression. Yeah, the default flap
suppression parameters are aggressive but we want to be sure we don't
hog precious CPU cycles from a nasty route flap and provide more
consistent routes to our downstreams. We can't take a full route table
(232k) due to TCAM limitations, so we have default routes anyway.
There's only a subtle impact to our customers with maybe a less
preferable, stable path versus a better, flapping one. A better
bargain in our book, but maybe not for others... CPU runs around
10-12% all day.

If we had more router CPU and no default routes, we'd probably have
dampening enabled but at very high thresholds under similar network
policies.

-D

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net> wrote:
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

On Apr 27, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Jack Bates wrote:

We've been considering it after the last flap around the world; perhaps
with extremely short penalty times.


<http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-43/presentations/ripe43-routing-flap.pdf>


Yeah, read the presentation several times, thus the short penalty times, and
probably high thresholds.

The idea for me is to limit the harm of excessive flapping while not being
paranoid. I've had a customer lose a lot of connectivity for 30 minutes
after 3 or 4 flaps. I figure 5 minute ignore after about 10 flaps in a  10
minute period.

Jack




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