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Re: IXP
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:17:17 -0400
In a message written on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 01:48:28AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
i think i saw several folks, not just stephen, say virtual wire was how they'd do an IXP today if they had to start from scratch. i know that for many here, starting from scratch isn't a reachable worldview, and so i've tagged most of the defenses of shared subnets with that caveat. the question i was answering was from someone starting from scratch, and when starting an IXP from scratch, a shared subnet would be just crazy talk.
I disagree. Having no shared subnet renders an exchange switching platform useless to me. If I have to go to all the work of configuring both ends in a exchange point operator provisioning system (and undoubtly being billed for it), assigning a /30, and configuring an interface on my router then I will follow that procedure and order a hunk of fiber. Less points of failure, don't have to deal with how the exchange operator runs their switch, and I get the bonus of no shared port issues. The value of an exchange switch is the shared vlan. I could see an argument that switching is no longer necessary; but I can see no rational argument to both go through all the hassles of per-peer setup and get all the drawbacks of a shared switch. Even exchanges that took the small step of IPv4 and IPv6 on separate VLAN's have diminished value to me, it makes no sense. It's the technological equvilient of bringing everyone into a conference room and then having them use their cell phones to call each other and talk across the table. Why are you all in the same room if you don't want a shared medium? -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: IXP, (continued)
- Re: IXP Roland Dobbins (Apr 18)
- Re: IXP Sean Donelan (Apr 19)
- Re: IXP Stephen Stuart (Apr 18)
- Re: IXP Bill Woodcock (Apr 18)
- Re: IXP Paul Vixie (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Leo Bicknell (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Adrian Chadd (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Jack Bates (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Mike Leber (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Stephen Stuart (Apr 24)
- Re: IXP Leo Bicknell (Apr 24)
- Re: IXP Nick Hilliard (Apr 24)
- Re: IXP Paul Wall (Apr 24)
- Re: IXP Leo Bicknell (Apr 24)
- Re: IXP Arnold Nipper (Apr 23)
- Re: IXP Jack Bates (Apr 18)