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Re: Cart and Horse
From: James Pleger <jpleger () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:01:25 -0700
Yes, they could create a solution for this that will cost money, or they could just take out the welding specs and go to town for a fraction of the price.
This type of stuff is typical of incident response... Fix the bleeding and create a long term solution that won't be as big of an impact.
Regards, James Pleger e: jpleger () gmail com g: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9D7141C9 On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Church, Charles wrote:
Wouldn't some authentication system be more useful than trying to lockall the manholes? Picture a system maybe using RFID or some other radiosystem where you walk up to manhole, wave your 'wand' (like a Mobil Speedpass), you hear a couple beeps, and you're cleared to open themanhole. Without authenticating, you can still get in, but the NOCs atlocal utilities and telcos are notified, maybe police as well. If you can tie access to a particular person's ID, I doubt that person will misuse it. Of course, this requires power and battery backup. On the other hand, maybe it's time to put the blame on the unions. If thesaboteur is found to be a union member, maybe penalize the entire unionsomehow, since they're acting like a terrorist group at that point. Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Lamar Owen [mailto:lowen () pari edu] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 11:22 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Cart and Horse On Monday 13 April 2009 11:06:55 Roy wrote:A friend mentioned at dinner yesterday that he spotted several AT&T trucks next to manholes in the area affected by the fiber cut. They were busy welding the manhole covers to their rims.:-) Sounds like a cutting torch or portable chop saw will become standard service equipment for them after all.
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