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Re: Atrivo/Intercage
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:05:43 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, William Pitcock wrote:
No, but others have, and it isn't helpful towards resolving this problem. Ultimately, neither is forcing them off the internet. Well, in actuality, that resolves part of the problem, but I suspect that a lot of the affected cybercrime has moved to other networks by now... so in reality the real problem isn't solved (except that the problem is mostly being moved away from Intercage). And shutting down ISPs who host these guys will solve nothing either. They will jump providers until the end of time.
The fear is evolution in technological advancement they may make rather than just where they will scatter to, but that is a solid point. Still, we have seen in the past that they evolve regardless. The future will tell whether this was a foolishness, or a step in the right directions.
The solution here is to go after the *people* who make this crap. They *are* breaking the law and we have the proof.
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, that isn't happening. Whethr I like it or not there are two layers of attackers. The initiator, and the proxy. The proxy is on networks, and networks we can reach out to.
Gadi.
William
Current thread:
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage, (continued)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage William Pitcock (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Rich Kulawiec (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage William Pitcock (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage William Pitcock (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Christopher Morrow (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage michael.dillon (Sep 25)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Paul Vixie (Sep 25)
- Wall it off, make it go away michael.dillon (Sep 25)
- Re: Wall it off, make it go away John C. A. Bambenek (Sep 25)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage Christopher Morrow (Sep 24)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage William Pitcock (Sep 24)