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Re: New Intercage upstream
From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:15:47 -0400
On 9/12/08, Lamar Owen <lowen () pari edu> wrote:
So if you want to be able to shut down a BGP session at a whim, you'd best make sure your agreement you executed allows for that; or exercise your right as a provider to refuse the customer, one or the other.
So... one other option which I've seen exercised is to keep the bgp sessoin up and just not permit any routes in either direction. The 'customer connection' is still up, the link is pingable, all SLA's are satisfied, the network doesn't have to guarantee 'routability' only 'connection'. Most every US network (at least) has the ability to shut down interfaces/devices/sessions 'for the protection of their network', in the worst case they may have to refund charges for the monthly fees... though I'd note that in the place I saw the 'no routes' used no chargebacks occured, despite the angry sales-driods and customer(s). In any case, there's no 'right' just some potentially flimsy legal verbiage and 'we really dont want to make a habit of stomping on too many customers'.
It will be interesting to see how long this link stays active. And how long it takes for Intercage to find another upstream. Money talks.
agreed.
Current thread:
- New Intercage upstream marcus.sachs (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Bill Woodcock (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream William Hamilton (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Bill Woodcock (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream William Hamilton (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Christian Koch (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream William Hamilton (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Bill Woodcock (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Lamar Owen (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Gadi Evron (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Paul Wall (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Pekka Savola (Sep 12)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: New Intercage upstream Paul Ferguson (Sep 12)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Andrew Clover (Sep 13)
- Re: New Intercage upstream Gadi Evron (Sep 13)