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Re: amazonaws.com?


From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:41:35 +0530

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Barry Shein <bzs () world std com> wrote:
The most common fee is a $50 per incident charge for spam complaints
after a stern warning or two which depends on frequency, a few per day
is very different than one or two per month, and what to do with those
phony AOL TOS complaints which almost always mean "I asked to be on
this list but I forgot how to get off so maybe if I keep clicking the
spam button..."?

You run a botique provider of shells that - at least today - almost
exclusively caters to geeks.  You arent as likely to pick up genuinely
badhat spamming customers as the rest of us large ISPs are - and the
large colo farms (he.net, softlayer etc) are even more vulnerable to
this kind of thing.

Feedback loops (such as those AOL provide, or we provide - and we were
the second ISP after AOL to offer ARF'd feedback loops) are about the
best tool any ISP has available to it, to get near real time spam
reports.

You're a corner case.  And an opinionated corner case at that.  That
doesnt change just how useful FBLs are to the vast majority of
consumer ISPs out there.

--srs


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