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Re: DNS and potential energy


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:07:21 +0000

 this may actually be the straw that triggers a serious redesign of the
 Internet's lookup system(s)... if not this, then IPv6 has a good chance.

 Incremental changes are good  - are stable (usually), and often can be 
 compartmentalized.  But sometimes - revolutionary changes are needed.
 and if they have the same attributes (stable & compartmentable) - then
 all the better.  the real issues w/ new TLDs is that they are being rolled out
 at the same time as IDN tlds....  the number of applications and endsystems 
 that will need to be rebuilt, tested, debugged, shipped, and documented is 
 nearly unimmaginable.  your comment wrt operations is, dare I say, understated?
 the opex for this is huge.  ICANN reaps the profits and the ISPs customers
 pay. (*) Friend Bush alluded to this earlier.

 It si my fond hope that DNS validation API's are built/tested soon, so that 
 end systems have one sea change and not three within the next 24 months.

 Oh yeah... and make sure you get IPv6 capability in there too.

 This will not be your fathers Internet.

--bill

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:12:27AM -0000, Martin Hannigan wrote:


This is currently a mostly capex-less exercise. I agree, the load is on operations, and likely at ICANN, VeriSign, 
and the DoC.  

We need way more detail than we have, but I hope all parties and the AC's move in a stewardship -and- commerce 
friendly direction with this. Even if it causes an evolution in the root -- which I believe it will. 

Best,

Marty


"Nothing like having a front row seat on the Internet".
      ---Mary Reindeau 




----- Original Message -----
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com <bmanning () vacation karoshi com>
To: Joe Abley <jabley () ca afilias info>
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>; Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Sent: Sun Jun 29 23:59:58 2008
Subject: DNS and potential energy

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 02:14:58PM -0400, Joe Abley wrote:

The only decision that is required is whether new generic top-level  
domains are desired. If not, do nothing. Otherwise, shake as much  
energy into the system as possible and sit back and let it find its  
own steady state.

Joe

      possession and use of classV explosives is regulated in
      most jurisdictions.

      but if you think that if we pack enough C4 into the DNS
      and set it off, that we might find equalibrium, you might
      be right. :)  the result will still be a flat namespace,
      (perhaps a crater where the namespace was).

      one might legitimately argue that ICANN is in need of 
      some serious regulation....

      that can happen at that national level or on the international
      level.

--bill



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