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RE: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]


From: "Frank Bulk - iNAME" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:52:25 -0500

For the reason you stated, "much to the chagrin of receivers".  Easier to
sell a service to customers downstream if it's being done in the network,
without MX changing.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Simpson [mailto:ksimpson () mailchannels com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:38 AM
To: frnkblk () iname com
Cc: 'Christopher Morrow'; nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Cloud service [was: RE: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address
reputation industry? (Re: Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs)]

Source IP blocking makes up a large portion of today's spam arrest
approach,
so we shouldn't discount the CPU benefits of that approach too
quickly.

I'm not sure where today's technology is in regards for caching the
first 1
to 10kB of a session....once enough information is garnered to
block, issue
TCP RSETs.  If it's good, free the contents of the cache.


What's your interest in mopping up spam in the middle of the network?
Usually spam is viewed as a leaf-node problem (much to the chagrin of
receivers, actually).

Regards,
Ken

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