Re: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap, DC power switches)

[Hyunseog Ryu <r.hyunseog () ieee org>]

I think this vendor-supported SFP was big issue from HP ethernet switch
since it was appeared from HP ethernet switch firmware upgrade without
much attention.
It should be standard, so it shouldn't matter which vender's SFP is.
But since HP decided to stick with their own SFP, some third party
vendor starts to ask for which vendor's equipment to be used with SFP,
and they programmed firmware to simulate specific vendor's SFP by
placing vendor code or something like that.

Sometimes when I ordered specific vendor's Part Number for SFP from
specific vendor's reseller, still it is delivered with third party
vendor's SFP.
I don't know whether reseller is making money because of price
difference, or not.


Hyun


Steve Dalberg wrote:
> This reason is twofold, one is Resellers were just buying whatever cheap
> gbics they could and bundling them with Procurve switches (I'm sure this
> happens to other vendors too).  Thus most of the profitable parts of
> switch sales were being eroded by the resellers.
>
> The other is that Procurve offers a lifetime warranty on most (possibly
> all) of their products, including gbics I believe, thus the premium.  I
> believe you can just RMA a Procurve GBIC, and they will send you a new
> one, no receipts, no worries, no expiration, no service contract.
>
> He shouldn't have to eat 300 gbics unless he bought non-Procurve ones to
> begin with.  HP should be able to exchange/reprogram them if they were
> HP Gbics.  
>
> Steve
>
>   
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jay R. Ashworth [mailto:jra () baylink com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:32 PM
> > To: nanog () nanog org
> > Subject: OT: GBIC compatibility and pricing (was Managed, cheap,DC
> >     
> power switches)
>   
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 01:16:09PM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >     
> > > Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
> > >       
> > > > For what it's worth, I gave the sales rep what-for about the price,
> > > >         
> and
>   
> > > > he gave it back to me, telling me that Procurve switches will only
> > > > accept Procurve(-compatible) SFP GBICs, which cost more, both
> > > >         
> because
>   
> > > > they're compatible, and because they're SFP.
> > > >         
> > > Recent Procurve switches only accept "rev B" modules; I have a
> > >       
> new-ish
>   
> > > switch that won't accept a pile of Finisar optics that did work in
> > >       
> older
>   
> > > HP switches. I don't know what the difference between "rev B" and
> > >       
> older
>   
> > > ones are, though.
> > >       
> > Specifically, that rep (Bill Billings) told me that a *firware
> >     
> upgrade*
>   
> > broke compatibility with the old GBICs, which *originally* worked, and
> > he ended up eating nearly 300 of them at one point.
> >
> > But we're probably off topic now.  :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> > --
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