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Re: Lessons from the AU model
From: Alastair Johnson <aj () sneep net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:09:00 +1100
Mark Newton wrote:
Despite the best efforts of some people to run their broadband access at line rate, residential broadband is very much a "CIR + burst" kind of service. All of our customers can burst to line rate (they're paying for it, so they should be able to get it). None of our customers can burst at line rate 24x7 for a month without paying for it. You can work out the CIR by dividing the number of bits in the quota by the number of seconds in a month.
Indeed. If you look at New Zealand, a very similar economic model to Australia (except less population and a much bigger density problem),there are regulated wholesale products[1,2,3] that offer a 32Kbps CIR per subscriber, and linerate PIR.
32Kbps working out to approximately 10GB per month, you can guess what the most common subscriber data cap is - and surprisingly few actually exceed it, although it has definitely gone up. Incidentally, the incumbent in NZ launched a flat rate DSL package. It did not go well, and ultimately cost them several million dollars in subscriber refunds.Perhaps some of the guys posting on this thread (Mark? MMC?) would be able to provide an average subscriber bandwidth (in GB or Kbit/s) use of their subscriber base. Break it down by <10G, >40G type accounts?
aj[1] http://www.comcom.govt.nz/IndustryRegulation/Telecommunications/Wholesale/Overview.aspx for what the regulator is doing
[2] http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,205743-204225,00.html?nv=tpd [3] http://www.telecom.co.nz/content/0,8748,204215-204225,00.html?nv=sd
Current thread:
- Re: Lessons from the AU model, (continued)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Simon Lyall (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Alastair Johnson (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Ben Butler (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Ben Butler (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Alastair Johnson (Jan 22)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Frank Bulk (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Martin Barry (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Simon Lyall (Jan 22)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Sean Donelan (Jan 21)
- Flast model users (was: Re: Lessons from the AU model) Michal Krsek (Jan 27)
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- Re: Lessons from the AU model Tom Vest (Jan 21)
- RE: Lessons from the AU model Frank Bulk (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model bmanning (Jan 20)