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Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit
From: Tom Vest <tvest () eyeconomics com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:55:31 +0800
(apologies in advance for extending this thread here rather than on ppml -- will gladly take responses off-list, or move it over if responders would prefer to continue the discussion there)
On Feb 22, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Thus spake "Adrian Chadd" <adrian () creative net au>As I ranted on #nanog last night; the v6 transition will happen when it costs more to buy / maintain a v4 infrastructure (IP trading, quadrupleNAT, support overheads, v6 tunnel brokers, etc) then it is to migrate infrastructure to v6. If people were sane (!), they'd have a method right now for an enterprise to migrate 100% native IPv6 and interconnect to the v4network via translation devices. None of this dual stack crap. It makesthe heads of IT security and technical managers spin.I agree, to a point. My prediction is that when the handful of mega-ISPs are unable to get the massive quantities of IPv4 addresses they need (a few dozen account for 90% of all consumption in the ARIN region)...
I keep reading assertions like this. Is there any public, authoritative evidence to support this claim? If there is, is this 90% figure a new development, or rather the product of changes in ownership (e.g., MCI-VZ-UU, SBC-ATT, etc.), changes in behavior (a run on the bank), some combination of the two, or something else altogether?
Thanks, TV
Current thread:
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit, (continued)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Eric Brunner-Williams (Feb 19)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Raymond Macharia (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 20)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Leo Vegoda (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Geoff Huston (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Owen DeLong (Feb 19)
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- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit John Lee (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Adrian Chadd (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Stephen Sprunk (Feb 21)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Tom Vest (Feb 21)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Roland Perry (Feb 22)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Randy Bush (Feb 22)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Leslie Nobile (Feb 27)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Randy Bush (Feb 27)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Member Services (Feb 29)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 22)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Tony Finch (Feb 22)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Roland Perry (Feb 22)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 22)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 22)