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Re: [NANOG] DWDM


From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil () DOMINO ORG>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:19:10 +0100

Frank,
Agreed, the infinera platform is very good also.
thanks for he link.

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Coluccio [mailto:frank () dticonsulting com] 
Sent: 29 April 2008 20:31
To: NANOG; Neil J. McRae; Frank Coluccio
Subject: Re: [NANOG] DWDM

ps - a 2007 updated prezo on SURFnet6's DWDM network presented by Erik-Jan
Bos:

http://www.ces.net/doc/seminars/cef2007/p/bos.ppt
--

On Tue Apr 29 15:05 , Frank Coluccio  sent:

re: "the latest CPL technology from Nortel is a real breakthrough, for once
a
vendor has listened and understood the challenges for operators and
actively
addressed our concerns."

When CPL was appeared I found its architecture refreshingly
straightforward, as
you've also noted, which was best demonstrated (to me, at least) by Kees
Neggers
within SURFnet6 throughout the Netherlands about three years ago (thus
allowing
him to offload boatloads of Layer3 gear). 

I'm not sure which issue of the Cook Report it was in, but the details of
this
SURFnet6 deployment were captured in an interview of Neggers quite nicely
by
Gordon Cook in one of his reports during that era.

During the intervening three years, however, advancements in dispersion
management have been introduced and opened the door for some new players,
such as
Infinera, whose use of electronic dispersion compensation (EDC) in its WDM
platforms has now given it somewhat of an edge, or so it seems at the
moment,
based on the market share it has gained in a very short time. I'm hardly
suggesting that Infinera trumps the former CPL approach across all areas of
design consideration, but only that it's an  approach that merits
investigation.

I should note that Infinera went diametrically against the grain of the
"all-optical" holy grail that is commonly sought by many, and actually
leverages
its ability to perform functions in the 'electronic' domain a lot more
efficiently than other vendors have been capable of achieving in the purely
optical domain, thus positioning itself in a category that's pretty much
all its
own today. I'd be eager to read comments and criticisms from anyone who's
had
actual experience with its wares.

Frank A. Coluccio
DTI Consulting Inc.
212-587-8150 Office
347-526-6788 Mobile

On Fri Apr 25  9:31 , "Neil J. McRae"  sent:

The current technologies for DWDM have really made it technology 
that's reasonably straight forward to deploy. The last
generation was a nightmare!

Tuneable optics, dispersion compensation, and ROADM have made
a substantial difference to deploying and operating DWDM networks.

I had experience with the former generation system from Nortel 
which although very reliable it was very resource intensive
to deploy new services, the latest CPL technology from Nortel
is a real breakthrough, for once a vendor has listened and understood
the challenges for operators and actively addressed our concerns.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott E. MacKenzie
[smackenzie () qf org qa','','','')">smackenzie () qf org qa]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:00 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: [NANOG] DWDM


Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for
Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization?

We need to determine the practicality of DWDM use...


Scott 



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