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[Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010]
From: Laird Popkin <laird () pando com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:50:25 -0400
On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell () gmail com> wrote:On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow () gmail com> wrote:It strikes me that often just doing a reverse lookup on the peer address would be 'good enough' to keep things more 'local' in a network sense. Something like: 1) prefer peers with PTR's like mine (perhaps get address from a public-ish server - myipaddress.com/ipchicken.com/dshield.org) 2) prefer peers within my /24->/16 ? This does depend on what you define as 'local' as well, 'stay off my transit links' or 'stay off my last-mile' or 'stay off that godawful expensive VZ link from CHI to NYC in my backhaul network...Well. here's your problem; depending on the architecture, the IP addressing structure doesn't necessarily map to the network's cost structure. This is why I prefer the P4P/DillTorrent announcement model.sure 80/20 rule... less complexity in the clients and some benefit(s). perhaps short term something like the above with longer term more realtime info about locality.
For the applications, it's a lot less work to use a clean network map from ISP's than it is to in effect derive one from lookups to ASN, / 24, /16, pings, traceroutes, etc. The main reason to spend the effort to implement those tactics is that it's better than not doing anything. :-) Laird Popkin CTO, Pando Networks 520 Broadway, 10th floor New York, NY 10012 laird () pando com c) 646/465-0570 _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list NANOG () nanog org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog
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- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Brandon Butterworth (Apr 22)
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- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Laird Popkin (Apr 22)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Christopher Morrow (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Alexander Harrowell (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Christopher Morrow (Apr 23)
- [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Laird Popkin (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] P2P traffic optimization Was: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Christopher Morrow (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Christopher Morrow (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] michael.dillon (Apr 23)
- Re: [Nanog] Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics [Was: Re: ATT VP: Internet to hit capacity by 2010] Brandon Galbraith (Apr 23)