RE: Bell Canada/Bellnexxia ignoring MX records, anybody else?

["Raymond L. Corbin" <rcorbin () hostmysite com>]

I brought that up to Hotmail back in November/December where their servers kept trying to deliver to the A record of a 
domain instead of the MX...after about three correspondences with their 'postmaster support' varying from them saying 
to check the spelling and try again or to contact the recipients ISP...they came back with

" After carefully investigating your account, I have verified that there was a technical problem that caused this 
issue. However, I am glad to inform you that this has been resolved and you should now be able to send messages 
properly."

Perhaps more 'technical problems'?

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of Mike Tancsa
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Mark Jeftovic
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Bell Canada/Bellnexxia ignoring MX records, anybody else?


At 11:50 AM 4/17/2008, Mark Jeftovic wrote:
> At any rate, what it looks like to us is that customers using Bell
> SMB outbound mail servers, possibly other outbound mail servers on
> Bell (Nexxia, Sympatico?) to destination domains whose NS are hosted
> on our nameservers seem to have the MX record *ignored* and the mail
> is delivered to the A record for the domain.
>
> We also suspect that it happens when the MX record points at a host
> back inside the Bell network/address space.

I had a quick look on our web server for the last 7 days (where the A
record for sentex.net resides), and the only hosts contacting us
there trying to send from @sympatico email are from Hotmail IP space
(Bell I think outsources their resi email to MSN/Hotmail).  What IP
addresses are involved in your case ? Send them to me and I can take
a look to see if they are showing up. If you need more detail (SMTP
IDs etc) let me know and I can send that offlist.


         ---Mike

# zgrep -i sympati maillog.[0-7].gz | grep relay= | awk -F"relay=" '{print $2}'
bay0-omc1-s26.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.98]
bay0-omc2-s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.138]
bay0-omc2-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.159]
bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.108]
bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.78]
bay0-omc1-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.90]
bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.94]
bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.80]
bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]
bay0-omc2-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.153]
bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.80]
bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.206]
bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.216]
bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.79]
bay0-omc3-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.201]
bay0-omc1-s4.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.76]
bay0-omc2-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.149]
bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.113]
bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.175]
bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.225]
bay0-omc1-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.87]
bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.155]
bay0-omc2-s14.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.150]
bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.141]
bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.174]
bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.219]
bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.145]
bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.104]
bay0-omc3-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.212]
bay0-omc2-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.172]
bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]
bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.75]
bay0-omc3-s31.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.231]
bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.206]
bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.101]
bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.145]
bay0-omc1-s34.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.106]
bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.235]
bay0-omc1-s21.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.93]
bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.79]
bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.143]
bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.111]
bay0-omc3-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.238]
bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.223]
bay0-omc2-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.137]
bay0-omc2-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.154]
bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.174]
bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.92]
bay0-omc1-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.83]
bay0-omc3-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.201]
bay0-omc3-s21.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.221]
bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.142]
bay0-omc1-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.85]
bay0-omc2-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.137]
bay0-omc1-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.97]
bay0-omc2-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.172]
bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.207]
bay0-omc3-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.220]
bay0-omc1-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.107]
bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.152]
bay0-omc3-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.240]
bay0-omc3-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.213]
bay0-omc2-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.142]
s1.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.246.99] (may be forged)
bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.141]
bay0-omc1-s14.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.86]
bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.222]
bay0-omc1-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.85]
bay0-omc1-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.89]
bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.146]
bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.203]
bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.211]
bay0-omc2-s26.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.162]
bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.233]
bay0-omc1-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.112]
bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.111]
bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.215]
bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.155]
bay0-omc3-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.238]
bay0-omc2-s37.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.173]
bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.224]
bay0-omc1-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.104]
bay0-omc2-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.169]
bay0-omc1-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.96]
bay0-omc1-s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.74]
bay0-omc2-s25.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.161]
bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.235]
bay0-omc2-s30.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.166]
bay0-omc1-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.78]
bay0-omc3-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.218]
s1.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.246.99] (may be forged)
bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.160]
bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.216]
bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.175]
bay0-omc2-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.137]
bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]
bay0-omc1-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.89]
bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.203]
bay0-omc1-s30.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.102]
bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.203]
bay0-omc3-s9.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.209]
bay0-omc2-s40.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.176]
bay0-omc3-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.236]
bay0-omc2-s18.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.154]
bay0-omc2-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.165]
bay0-omc2-s2.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.138]
bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.152]
bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.105]
bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.219]
bay0-omc2-s31.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.167]
bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.223]
bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.144]
bay0-omc2-s1.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.137]
bay0-omc3-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.219]
bay0-omc3-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.239]
bay0-omc3-s32.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.232]
bay0-omc3-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.233]
bay0-omc1-s20.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.92]