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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?
From: John Kristoff <jtk () ultradns net>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:53:27 -0500
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
Comcast's network is QOS DSCP enabled, as are many other large provider networks. Enterprise customers use QOS DSCP all the time. However, the net neutrality battles last year made it politically impossible for providers to say they use QOS in their consumer networks.
re: <http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2005-12/msg00334.html> This came up before and I'll ask again, what do you mean by QoS? And what precisely does QoS DSCP really mean here? It's important to know what queueing, dropping, limiting, etc. policies and hardware/buffering capabilities are with the DSCP settings. Otherwise it's just a buzzword on a checklist that might not even actually do anything. I'd also like to hear about monitoring and management capabilities are deployed, that was a real problem last time I checked. How much has really changed? Do you (or if someone on these big nets wants to own up offlist) have pointers to indicate that deployment is significantly different now than they were a couple years ago? Even better, perhaps someone can do a preso at a future meeting on their recent deployment experience? I did one a couple years and I haven't heard of things improving markedly since then, but then I am still recovering from having drunk from that jug of kool-aid. :-) John
Current thread:
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?, (continued)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 28)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 29)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Stefan Bethke (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Fred Reimer (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Fred Reimer (Oct 29)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joel Jaeggli (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Frank Bulk (Oct 29)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 28)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? John Kristoff (Oct 29)
- What can you use DSCP for? Sean Donelan (Oct 30)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joe Greco (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 26)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Frank Bulk (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Frank Bulk (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Rich Groves (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Frank Bulk (Oct 23)