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Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:54:20 +0800
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:What hurt these access providers, particularly those in the cable market, was a set of failed assumptions. The Internet became a commodity, driven by this web thing. As a result, standards like DOCSIS developed, and bandwidth was allocated, frequently in an asymmetric fashion, to access customers. We have lots of asymmetric access technologies, that are not well suited to some new applications.This doesn't explain why many universities, most with active, symmetric ethernet switches in residential dorms, have been deploying packet shaping technology for even longer than the cable companies. If the answer was as simple as upgrading everyone to 100Mbps symmetric ethernet, or even 1Gbps symmetric ethernet, then the university resnet's would be in great shape. Ok, maybe the greedy commercial folks screwed up and deserve what they got; but why are the nobel non-profit universities having the same problems?
because off the shell p2p stuff doesn't seem to pick up on internal peers behind the great NAT that I've seen dorms behind? :P Adrian
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