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NNTP vs P2P (Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?)
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:56:30 +0200
Adrian Chadd wrote: [..]
Here's the real question. If an open source protocol for p2p content routing and distribution appeared?
It is called NNTP, it exists and is heavily used for doing exactly where most people use P2P for: Warezing around without legal problems. NNTP is of course "nice" to the network as people generally only download, not upload. I don't see the point though, traffic is traffic, somewhere somebody pays for that traffic, from an ISP point of view there is thus no difference between p2p and NNTP. NNTP has quite some overhead (as it is 7bits in general afterall and people need to then encode those 4Gb DVDs ;), but clearly ISPs exist solely for the purpose of providing access to content on NNTP and they are ready to invest lots of money in infrastructure and especially also storage space. I did notice in a recent newsarticle (hardcopy 20min.ch) that the RIAA has finally found NNTP though and are suing Usenet.com though... I wonder what they will do with all those ISPs who are simply selling "NNTP access", who still are claiming that they don't know what they are actually requiring "those big caches" (NNTP servers) for and that they don't know that there is this alt.bin.dvd-r.* stuff on it :) Going to be fun times I guess... Greets, Jeroen
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- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?, (continued)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joel Jaeggli (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joe Provo (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Florian Weimer (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Brandon Galbraith (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Roland Dobbins (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Perry Lorier (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Adrian Chadd (Oct 22)
- NNTP vs P2P (Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?) Jeroen Massar (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joe Provo (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Eric Spaeth (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Florian Weimer (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? James Hess (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Alexander Harrowell (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Charles Gucker (Oct 22)