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Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?
From: Mike Lewinski <mike () rockynet com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:01:50 -0600
Florian Weimer wrote:
I don't know what case prompted Ferg to post his message to NANOG, but I know that there are cases where failing to act is comparable to ignoring the screams for help of an "alleged" rape victim during the "alleged" crime.
I'm reminded of this story from earlier this year: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=568400"For his effort, Van Iveren was charged with criminal trespass while using a dangerous weapon, criminal damage to property while using a dangerous weapon and disorderly conduct while using a dangerous weapon, all criminal misdemeanors that carry a maximum total penalty of 33 months in jail."
On a side note, now that I've gotten back on -post.... I will say that I've had pretty dismal experiences working with Law Enforcement over the years as a service provider. When you have to explain to the Feds just what IRC (for example) is, you've lost the battle :( After repeated attempts at getting what seems to be blatant criminal activity investigated, a provider might start to think "If Law Enforcement doesn't care, why should I?" (I've avoided falling into that trap, but it is frustrating to boot someone for illegal activities and see them go on to pull the same thing at another provider even after providing evidence to authorities.).
Current thread:
- How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Paul Ferguson (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 13)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 13)
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- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 15)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 15)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- RE: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Eric Van Tol (Oct 13)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Paul Ferguson (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? John Kristoff (Oct 12)