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Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)
From: Mark Newton <newton () internode com au>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:22:59 +0930
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:02:31PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
The tricky part is that we're not going to agree on that as a community, so the status quo will persist until someone cares enough to do something drastic that moves the entire industry in one direction or another.
That isn't actually true. I could move to IPv6 and deploy a NAT-PT box to give my customers access to the v4 Internet regardless of whatever the rest of the community thinks. This whole "debate" is a complete waste of time, because everyone, yourself included, knows that regardless of what consensus we end up with, at the end of the day if NAT makes sense NAT will be deployed. End of story, game over. This whole meme that says we need the entire industry to move in the same direction at the same time is yet another delaying fallacy, and yet another example of you proposing that we all behave like old-skool telcos inside the exact same 24 hour period when you decry any suggestion that we act like old-skool telcos. Whatever. - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton () internode com au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton () atdot dotat org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223
Current thread:
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6), (continued)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Adrian Chadd (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Mark Newton (Oct 02)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Mark Newton (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems John Curran (Oct 03)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems michael.dillon (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 04)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Mark Newton (Oct 03)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) michael.dillon (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 03)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Church, Charles (Oct 03)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) JAKO Andras (Oct 03)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Church, Charles (Oct 03)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Eliot Lear (Oct 04)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 04)
- RE: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) michael.dillon (Oct 04)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 14)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Mark Andrews (Oct 04)