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Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted
From: Nathan Ward <nanog () daork net>
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 01:34:03 +1200
On 30/05/2007, at 11:41 PM, <michael.dillon () bt com> wrote:
Before someone starts it, the debate between transition protocols to use is well and truely over. Teredo and 6to4 have been chosen for use by the software vendors of the end systems. (fine by me)This is misleading. You are using IPv6 jargon (transition protocol)whose meaning is not obvious. For most ISPs, "transition" refers to theentire series of steps up to running a ubiquitous IPv6 network whereIPv4 is a legacy support service. In that sense, Teredo and 6to4 are notmagic bullets because they merely deal with the first steps of such a transition.
Fair enough. Alternative suggestions? :-)
I do agree that Teredo and 6to4 are very important right now, as far astaking actions, but for planning, we need to look well beyond IPv6 transition protocols.
I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
Since we are all collectively playing catchup at this point, it would bevery useful for some clear guidance on who needs to deploy Teredo and6to4 and where it needs to be deployed. Also, the benefits of deployment versus the problems caused by not having it. Should this be in every PoP or just somewhere on your network? Are there things that can be measured to tell you whether or not lack of Teredo/6to4 is causing user problems?
A quick look through the NANOG historical slideware suggests very little mention of Teredo. Again, someone from Microsoft who can fill that gap might be useful. And probably someone who's using Miredo (an opensource/free implementation).
I've been doing a lot of thinking/writing about deploying these things in the real world so I can knock up some pictures+notes, but again, better to hear from someone else who's done/doing it, rather than someone who's been playing/thinking. I assume there is someone..
-- Nathan Ward
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Deployment (Was: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted), (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment (Was: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) Donald Stahl (May 30)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment (Was: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) Kevin Loch (May 30)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment (Was: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (May 30)
- why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Edward Lewis (May 29)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted David Conrad (May 29)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Edward Lewis (May 29)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted David Conrad (May 29)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Iljitsch van Beijnum (May 30)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Nathan Ward (May 30)
- RE: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted michael.dillon (May 30)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Nathan Ward (May 30)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (May 30)
- Re: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Iljitsch van Beijnum (May 30)
- 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) Jeroen Massar (May 30)
- Re: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) Mike Leber (May 30)
- Re: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) Mike Leber (May 30)
- RE: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) James Jun (May 30)
- Re: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) virendra rode // (May 30)
- Re: 6bone space used still in the free (www.ietf.org over IPv6 broken) (Was: why same names, was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted) bmanning (May 30)
- Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Perry Lorier (May 29)
- Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted Nathan Ward (May 29)