Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet () consulintel es>]

I don't really agree 100%. There is DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation, and it just
works !

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
> Responder a: <owner-nanog () merit edu>
> Fecha: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:46:47 +0200
> Para: Donald Stahl <don () calis blacksun org>
> CC: Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>, "Steven M. Bellovin"
> <smb () cs columbia edu>, Randy Bush <randy () psg com>, Martin Hannigan
> <hannigan () gmail com>, <nanog () nanog org>
> Asunto: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted
>
>
> On 29-mei-2007, at 3:35, Donald Stahl wrote:
>
> > Actually setting up a dual-stack infrastructure isn't very difficult-
> > anyone who has done so would probably agree. The problems (as has
> > already been pointed out) come from management, billing and the like.
>
> I don't know what kinds of weird management and billing systems are
> out there, so I won't say that's not relevant, but the most difficult
> part about IPv6 deployment today is provisioning, in my opinion. If
> you as a service provider have a router and a customer has a host (or
> more than one for either) then you can do stateless autoconfig and
> life is good. However, when the customer has a router then there is
> no way to make that work automatically without manual configuration
> similar to what you get now with a CPE that receives a single IPv4
> address over PPP or DHCP on the WAN side and does NAT on the LAN side.
>
> Then there is the DNS issue: since you can't predict what addresses
> your customer's machines are going to have, you can't pre-populate
> the DNS. DHCP for IPv6 is largely missing in action so that's not a
> 100% solution. It is possible to have clients register their
> addresses in the DNS using dynamic DNS updates, but that's not all
> that widely supported either and either you have no security or you
> have confused customers. But you can always delegate the reverse DNS
> to the customer and make it their problem.  :-)
>
> > Testing now with a small group of technically competent people
> > would seem to be a better idea than waiting until IPv6 is already
> > widely deployed and then trying to test a rollout.
>
> # traceroute6 www.nanog.org
> traceroute6: hostname nor servname provided, or not known
>
> That would be a start... It took years to get the IETF to eat its own
> dog food, though.




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