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Re: On-going Internet Emergency and Domain Names


From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:32:43 -0500 (CDT)


On 31 Mar 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:

whoa.  this is like deja vu all over again.  when barb@CERT asked me to
patch BIND gethostbyaddr() back in 1994 or so to disallow non-ascii host
names in order to protect sendmail from a /var/spool/mqueue/qf* formatting
vulnerability, i was fresh off the boat and did as i was asked.  a dozen
years later i find that that bug in sendmail is long gone, but the pain
from BIND's "check-names" logic is still with us.  i did the wrong thing
and i should have said "just fix sendmail, i don't care how much easier
it would be to patch libc, that's just wrong."

are we really going to stop malware by blackholing its domain names?  if
so then i've got some phone calls to make.

are we really going to stop malware by blackholing its domain names?  if
so then i've got some phone calls to make.

I don't know about bind, obviously your knowledge over-shadows
mine.
Changing bind for sendmail was likely silly but it showed some agaility we
seem to not have today.
If it could have been a temporary dynamic solution (rather than a
package change), it's an interesting concept.

Back to reality and 2007:
In this case, we speak of a problem with DNS, not sendmail, and not bind.

As to blacklisting, it's not my favorite solution but rather a limited
alternative I also saw you mention on occasion. What alternatives do
you offer which we can use today?

        Gadi.

-- 
Paul Vixie



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