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Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)
From: Gerry Boudreaux <gerry () tape net>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:20:11 -0500
On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote:http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers?Even from that one-sided account, I have serious problems with: Siwert said the Colorado-based Level 3 "cited several Internetabuses" by SaidCom customers as the reason for the shutdown, includingspam problems. "Some customers abuse the system", but when that happens, SaidCom contacts the authorities, said Siwert.When we have a customer spamming, we don't call the police. We either talk to, ACL, or shut off the customer. The above suggests to me that SaidCom had spam issues that they were either unable or unwilling to remedy themselves.
ACL's are your friends with non-responsive customers. ;-), But maybe SaidCom did not know better.
How many Abuse tickets had they received from TelCove/(3) over what time frame?
I may be way off base here: Only knowing the "facts" presented in the above article, the "Abuse" complaints may have also included DMCA complaints, which, if not responded to in a timely manner, could also have resulted in liability for (3).* As per the quote above, the abuses included spam, he did not say they "were exclusively spam".
*I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. Just reading between the lines here... G
Current thread:
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property), (continued)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Joe Abley (Mar 16)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 16)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Brandon Galbraith (Mar 16)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 17)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Howard C. Berkowitz (Mar 16)
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- RE: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Frank Bulk (Mar 16)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) William Yardley (Mar 15)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Jerry Pasker (Mar 15)
- Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Gerry Boudreaux (Mar 15)
- Darned if they do or don't (was Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3) Sean Donelan (Mar 15)
- AUP enforcement diligence David Barak (Mar 16)
- Re: AUP enforcement diligence Adrian Chadd (Mar 16)
- Re: AUP enforcement diligence Steve Sobol (Mar 16)
- Re: AUP enforcement diligence Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 19)