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Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas () netcore fi>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:26:38 +0200 (EET)
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Joel Jaeggli wrote: ...
I would like to blame the idiots that decided that of the signal range to be used on copper for dsl, only a certain amount would be dedicated to upload instead of negotiating. What on earth do I want to do with 24Mb down and 1Mb up? Can't I have 12 and 12? Someone please tell me there's a valid reason why the download range couldn't be variable and negotiated and that's it's completely impossible for one to have 20Mb up and 1.5 Mb down.VDSL2 ITU G.993.2 supports variable and symmetric negotiation of rates. obviously distance is a factor, cause you're down to ~50Mb/s at 1000 meters. at&t and bell south, now at&t and at&t had vdsl rollouts that could in theory be upgraded to vdsl2. If you were in helsinki, I know Päijät-Hämeen Puhelin (php.fi) would sell you 100/24 vdsl2 for around 80euro a month.
As cable was mentioned in earlier posts.. There are also (proprietary) solutions leveraging cable for symmetric 10/10 or 100/100 Mbit/s.
One example I'm aware of is Teleste's ETTH technology: http://www.teleste.fi/index.phtml?page_id=1114&navi_id=1114 -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Frank Bulk (Mar 23)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Alexander Harrowell (Mar 14)
- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Mike Hammett (Mar 14)
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- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Frank Bulk (Mar 14)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Roland Dobbins (Mar 14)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) John Levine (Mar 14)
- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Jamie Bowden (Mar 15)
- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Frank Bulk (Mar 15)
- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Jamie Bowden (Mar 15)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Joel Jaeggli (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Pekka Savola (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Mikael Abrahamsson (Mar 14)
- RE: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Mike Hammett (Mar 14)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Todd Vierling (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Roland Dobbins (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Todd Vierling (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Joe Abley (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 13)
- Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd) Joe Abley (Mar 13)
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