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Re: Diesel storage (was:RE: 24x7 Support Strategies)


From: "Dorn Hetzel" <dhetzel () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:25:21 -0400

It occurs to me that if you wanted to run backup generators on veggie, that
you could tap some of the waste heat from all the lieberts with a
desuperheater and keep the veggie as hot as you liked for no net energy
cost... :)

On 6/14/07, michael.dillon () bt com <michael.dillon () bt com> wrote:

 >  As the price of petrol fuel supplies slowly moves upward due to demand
from
> China and India, I foresee datacenters moving away from diesel
generators as
> backup power sources towards fuel cells/generators that can burn natural
gas and hydrogen.
Technically fuel cells don't burn the fuel; they rely on a chemical
process that is
rather like a battery except that it relies on a continuous supply of
fresh fuel
to supply hydrogen atoms. The fuel cell has a catalyst which strips
electrons
off the fuel, and those flowing electrons are electricity.

Unfortunately, most fuel cells run very hot (600 C with molten carbonate)
or
use noxious chemicals (sulphuric acid slurry). But a lot of work is being
done
into developing fuel cells that run at low temperatures and which are not
so
fussy about the fuel that you feed them. One company that has interesting
commercial products right now is Acumentrics:
http://www.acumentrics.com/products-power-generators.htm

--Michael Dillon


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