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RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)


From: "Andrew Kirch" <AKirch () AllThingsIT com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:03:49 -0500


Maybe this is overly naïve, but what about the ability to auto-magically import and search various vendor SNMP/WMI 
MIBs?  I can think of 3 open source NMS that do a good job if you set up all 3 to monitor the network, but they all 
overlap and none of them really do a good job.
I also am using a closed-source NMS at work that does little more than minimal on-system agent monitoring of 
Windows/Linux based servers (disk space cpu memory utilization).
Good graphing, good alerts, good SNMP integration, granularity, and escalation, as well as pretty executive reports to 
keep PHB's happy (and that display the system as 5 9's uptime no matter how many times the mail server crashed!).  
The reason why the open-source tools don't work is a lack of comprehensive coverage of Cisco, third party network kit, 
Linux and Windows.  It just doesn't quite "do it all". 
The reason why the closed-source tool didn't work (in my mind) is that it just doesn't have the flexibility to deal 
with anything other than what it's expecting.  I've submitted a few dozen support tickets with them (and they will 
remain nameless) simply because of a lack of SNMP knowledge on their part.  
Please forgive me for all above M$ specific references, I work in a MS and *IX environment.


Andrew D Kirch - All Things IT
Office: 317-755-0202
"si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes." 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On Behalf Of
Ray Burkholder
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:12 PM
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)


I see a reference in the response to RTG.  RTG's claim to fame looks like
speed.

I've done some work with Cricket and have figured out a way to get at it's
schema.  I've been looking at mating Cricket' s 'getter and schema with
Drraw and genDevConfig tools and putting a Mason based HTML wrapper around
the whole thing so people can pick and choose the components of charts
they
want to see (per chart), (per page).  And by filling in simple web forms,
it
would be easy to generate command lines for genDevConfig to go out and
create the customized SNMP queries that are needed for Dial-Peers, Cisco's
Quality of Service, etc.

Would anyone be interested in such a contraption?

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On
Behalf Of Paul Vixie
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 13:43
To: nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)


jml () packetpimp org (Jason LeBlanc) writes:

After looking for 'the ideal' tool for many years, it still
amazes me
that no one has built it.  Bulk gets, scalable schema and
good portal/UI.
RTG is better than MRTG, but the config/db/portal are still lacking.

if funding were available, i know some developers we could
hire to build the ultimate scalable pluggable network F/L/OSS
management/monitoring system.  if funding's not available
then we're depending on some combination of hobbiests (who've
usually got rent to pay, limiting their availability for this
work) and in-house toolmakers at network owners (who've
usually got other work to do, or who would be under pressure
to monetize/license/patent the results if That Much Money was
spent in ways that could otherwise directly benefit their
competitors.)

"been there, done that, got the t-shirt."  is there funding
available yet?
like, $5M over three years?  spread out over 50 network
owners that's ~$3K a month.  i don't see that happening in a
consolidation cycle like this one, but hope springs eternal.
"give randy and hank the money, they'll take care of this for
us once and for all."
--
Paul Vixie

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