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Time Series databases


From: <michael.dillon () bt com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:10:18 -0000


Going back to this thread, http://www.kx.com/ deals in 
financial transaction
databases where they store millions of ticks.  They appear to have a
transactional based language with a solution that appears 
to be robust and
fail resistant.

hmm, that is quite interesting. and apparently people out there _are_
using it for things like counter values and what not - based on their
FAQ. I'd absolutely love to know more about the algorithms and math
behind something like kdb+

KX publish a bunch of information about their product. Their lineage
goes back to APL and the J language, both of which found most of their
users in financial services.

However, the general issue of time-series databases is more interesting.
Google will take you to lots of research using keywords like:

time-series database delta wavelet search indexing maxima

Of course, don't use them all at once. To give you a flavor of the stuff
that people have done, here is a slide presentation on compression and
indexing that does not use averages like RRD does:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~eugene/research/talks/major-extrema.ppt

In addition to Google, it is a good idea to search CiteSeer
http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/ because it allows you to quickly track down
references to other papers so you can read them all as a set.

I don't think there are any full-blown open-source implementations that
you could integrate into your own systems. There is stuff like Metakit
http://www.equi4.com/metakit.html which stores data by column rather
than by row. And people who have thought about how to efficiently store
time-series probably cobbled together their own systems using bsddb or
HDF5. 

If you are stuck in the SQL world, then check out these articles on star
and snowflake schemas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_schema
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_schema and follow up the references at
the bottom of the page. 


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