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Re: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.


From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:10:23 +0800


On Wed, Aug 08, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote:

Forgive my broken formatting, but LookOut, it's Microsoft! Is what we
use, period.

I have a question related to what you posted below, and it's a pretty
simple one:

How is answering a query on TCP/53 any MORE dangerous than answering it
on UDP/53?  Really.  I'd like to know how one of these security nitwits
justifies it.  It's the SAME piece of software answering the query
either way.

I'd hazard a guess and say something like "TCP state complexity > UDP state
complexity" and that possibly leading to a potential DoS.

But then, there's also stuff like stateful firewalls which can more
aggressively timeout UDP flows (and not break DNS ones, since they're
not exactly long-living!) but die under large TCP loads. And TCP
takes CPU to setup/teardown, and requires client-side state.




Adrian


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