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Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:32:35 +0200
On 12-apr-2007, at 15:26, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
Last I heard, the IEEE won't go along, and they're the ones who standardize 802.3.
I knew there was a reason we use ethernet II rather than IEEE 802.3 for IP. :-)
A few years ago, the IETF was considering various jumbogram options. As best I recall, that was the official response from the relevant IEEE folks: "no". They're concerned with backward compatibility.
Obviously keeping the same maximum packet size when moving from 10 to 100 to 1000 to 10000 Mbps is suboptimal. However, if the newer standards were to mandate a larger maximum packet size, a station connected to a 10/100/1000 switch at 1000 Mbps would be able to send packets that a 10 Mbps station wouldn't be able to receive. (And the 802.3 length field starts clashing with ethernet II type codes.)
However, to a large degree this ship has sailed because many vendors implement jumboframes. If we can fix the interoperability issue at layer 3 for IP that the IEEE can't fix at layer 2 for 802.3, then I don't see how anyone could have a problem with that. Also, such a mechanism would obviously be layer 2 agnostic, so in theory, it doesn't step on the IEEE's turf at all.
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- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet, (continued)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Gian Constantine (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Saku Ytti (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Warren Kumari (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Will Hargrave (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Saku Ytti (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Florian Weimer (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Florian Weimer (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Florian Weimer (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Randy Bush (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Randy Bush (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Randy Bush (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Randy Bush (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Saku Ytti (Apr 12)
- Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 13)
- RE: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet Leigh Porter (Apr 13)