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Re: AOL Mail Problem


From: Simon Waters <simonw () zynet net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:31:32 +0100


On Thursday 27 Jul 2006 17:59, William Yardley wrote:

Keeping in mind that they are not only a huge email provider, but also
that their user-base is mostly not exactly tech savvy, I think Carl,
Charles et al do a pretty good job over there.

I think Carl moved on to other things in AOL.

Dealing with their postmaster team can still take a while sometimes, but
they'll generally respond.

Experience here is that they don't any more. I've got responses, but not via 
postmaster@.

They still do simplistic blocks on content, i.e. containing certain types of 
content will cause a message to be rejected outright, without any sort of 
consideration of the other content of the message. I think that is a broken 
model.

Some sort of port 25 block, but neither a complete block, nor guaranteed 
delivery, but some sort of intermediate proxy. This makes life very hard on 
people who are learning about email, or coming from elsewhere. I think what 
was needed was abuse detection and some sort of walled garden approach, which 
could have dealt with all forms of abuse, not just email.

I appreciate changing anything at all on that sort of scale is always 
tremendously challenging.


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