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Re: is this like a peering war somehow?
From: "Per Heldal" <heldal () eml cc>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:52:00 +0100
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:54:34 +0100 (CET), "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se> said:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Alexander Harrowell wrote:Whatever. No-one's actually trying to do "some packets are more equal than others" here in Europe, except for the mobile people with IMS and such. BT just transferred its access network into a new division with a specific remit to provide open access to all ISPs and alt- tels who want it.
I'm sorry if I made the impression that it is already happening. Now it's a game on the political arena, and it's important to support the RIR-communities' efforts to provide balanced information to decision-makers.
My guess would be that basically everybody doing triple play will prioritize the IPTV and VoIP packets in their network including the access. Considering that streaming UDP IPTV requires very very low packet loss, much better than Best Effort, this is needed to provide a good quality service. If you do LLQ you want to make sure you can control what goes into that class, that can be done several ways, including disallowing anything you don't know about (transit/ix) to go there. This is preferential treatment for some packets and it makes perfect technological sense.
Preferential treatment of value-added services in the providers own network is just fine. It's down-prioritizing competing services that may become a problem. Like blocking all VoIP traffic not using the providers' own "gateway-service". //per -- Per Heldal http://heldal.eml.cc/
Current thread:
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow?, (continued)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Michael . Dillon (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Peter Corlett (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Petri Helenius (Jan 22)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 22)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Todd Vierling (Jan 23)
- qos on access (Re: is this like a peering war somehow?) Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 23)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Paul Vixie (Jan 23)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Per Heldal (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Joe Abley (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Joe Abley (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Joseph S D Yao (Jan 20)
- RE: is this like a peering war somehow? Doug Marschke (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Michael Painter (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 20)
- Re: is this like a peering war somehow? Roy (Jan 20)