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Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware
From: "Jason Frisvold" <xenophage0 () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:16:22 -0500
On 2/21/06, Michael.Dillon () btradianz com <Michael.Dillon () btradianz com> wrote:
Why not just bypass them and go direct to the unwashed masses of end users? Offer them a free windows infection blocker program that imposes the quarantine itself locally on the user's machine. This program would use stealth techniques to hide itself in the user's machine, just like viruses do. And this program would do nothing but register itself with an encoded registry, and listen for an encoded command to activate itself. Rather like a botnet except with the user's consent and with a positive goal.
Intruiging concept.. Why bother "hiding" itself though? Or is the idea to prevent itself from being removed by malware?
When the community of bot/worm researchers determines that this machine is infected, they inform the central registry using their own encoded signal. When enough "votes" have been collected, the registry sends the shutdown signal to the end user, thus triggering the blocker program to quarantine the user.
Isn't there a risk of DoS though? What's to prevent someone from "spoofing" those signals and shutting down other users? Relative precautions would need to be taken, but to be sure, the end-user needs the ability to override the system. Thus leaving us in the same situation as before. Firewall? I don't need no stinking firewall.. :)
Unlike antivirus software, the application on the user's computer does not need to detect malware and it needs no database updates. It does only one thing and it relies on the collective intelligence of the anti-malware community.
Sure it does.. It doesn't need to remove it, per se, but it will need to know what the infection is so it can give the correct disinfection instructions..
--Michael Dillon
-- Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold XenoPhage0 () gmail com
Current thread:
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware, (continued)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Bill Nash (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Bill Nash (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Michael . Dillon (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Michael Painter (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Michael . Dillon (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Sean Donelan (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Michael . Dillon (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Jason Frisvold (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Michael . Dillon (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Bill Nash (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Jason Frisvold (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Jason Frisvold (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware PC (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Larry Smith (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Andy Davidson (Feb 22)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Jason Frisvold (Feb 23)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Jack Bates (Feb 23)