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Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware]
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:42:45 +0000
Edward W. Ray wrote:IMHO, a user should have to demonstrate a minimum amount of expertise and have a up-to-date AV, anti-spyware and firewall solution for their PCs.The mostly-user ISP's will have to eventually do something or end up being either regulated, spending more and more and more on tech support and/OR abuse personnel, or written down as blackhat AS's. Gadi.
if i may <feedtroll> to borrow a bit more from the "licensed to net" analogy... are vendors being let off scott free and leaving the burden of responsibility to the consumer? ISPs are the roads (likley toll) and they should not be forced to create barriers, speed bumps, and control mthods for poor drivers who are sold crap for vechiles. wht is the mean-time-to-infection for a stock windows XP system when plugged intot he net?... 2-5minutes? you can't get patches down that fast. i'm begining to think that botnet like structures are in fac t the wave of the future. ... and instead of trying to irradicate them, we should be looking at ways to use botnet like structures for adding value to an increasingly more connected mesh of devices. ... of course YMMV - but i'm not persuaded that botnet.hivemind constructs are -NOT- inherently evil... they can be turned that way, but if there is a value to such things, we ought to be able to use them for our own purposes. </feedtroll> --bill (who really has better things todo, but slugs are still in bed...)
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- RE: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Frank Bulk (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- RE: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Frank Bulk (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
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- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware James (Feb 21)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Scott Weeks (Feb 20)
- Re: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- RE: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Edward W. Ray (Feb 20)
- and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] bmanning (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Rob Thomas (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Christopher L. Morrow (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Gadi Evron (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Jim Segrave (Feb 21)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] John Curran (Feb 21)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] John Curran (Feb 21)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Jim Segrave (Feb 21)
- RE: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware Frank Bulk (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Sean Donelan (Feb 20)
- Re: and here are some answers [was: Quarantine your infected users spreading malware] Gadi Evron (Feb 20)