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Re: protocols that don't meet the need...
From: "Per Heldal" <heldal () eml cc>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:45:33 +0100
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:31:56 +0100 (CET), "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se> said: [snip]
The current routing model doesn't scale. I don't want to sit 5 years from now needing a router that'll handle 8 million routes to get me through the next 5 years of route growth.
agree!
PI space for multihoming and AS number growth is a bad thing for scaling and economics, however you look at it.
agree!
Shim6 would hopefully curb the prefix growth very early in the growth curve as single entities won't need AS to multihome between two different ISPs.
agree! [snip] All is well if shim6 succeeds it seems ... 5-10 years into the future. Do we all agree to postpone v6 till then? If not there's a need for an intermediary solution. To me it seems like people want 2 things: 1. A working solution. The only alternative with current technology is PI end-site assignments. 2. Reasonable predictability. To make ever-lasting technologies and policies may be the dream in some research communities. The rest of us have to work with what we got and accept that we have to upgrade and make substatial changes to our networks from time to time. An alternative to satisfy those who fear the long term effect of a growing routing-table could be temporary end-site assignments from dedicated address-blocks. At some point in the future, when new-and-mature technology exist, the RIR-community could decide on new policies and decide to re-claim the entire block on e.g. a 24-month notice. ... just my $.02 compromise ;) //per -- Per Heldal http://heldal.eml.cc/
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- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...), (continued)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) william(at)elan.net (Feb 16)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) James R. Cutler (Feb 16)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) David Meyer (Feb 16)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 23)
- RE: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Matthew Kaufman (Feb 15)
- RE: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Edward B. DREGER (Feb 15)
- RE: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Matthew Kaufman (Feb 15)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Joe Abley (Feb 16)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Edward B. DREGER (Feb 16)
- Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...) Joe Abley (Feb 16)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... Per Heldal (Feb 15)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... Alexei Roudnev (Feb 16)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 16)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... Andre Oppermann (Feb 16)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... David Meyer (Feb 15)
- Re: protocols that don't meet the need... Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 15)