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Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam
From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:08:41 +0530
On 8/10/06, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
Do we really want ISPs to become the enforcers for every Internet application someone may use or abuse? Webmail, online game cheating, blog complaints, auctions disputes, instant message harrasment, music sharing, online gambling, etc. Imagining you are going to stop drug dealers by removing public pay phones isn't addressing the real source of the problem.
The MAAWG bcps, for example, state that ISPs must take responsiblity for mitigating outbound spam and abuse. Whether the problem is bad enough for an ISP to put in automated filtering instead of dealing with abuse reports on a case by case basis, is a call for the ISP to make. For example, egress filtering / bcp38, port 25 blocking, route filters to stop martian packets and leaked routes from propogating .. or network level filtering slammer and other worm traffic for that matter. srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists () gmail com)
Current thread:
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam, (continued)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Gregory Kuhn (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Simon Waters (Aug 10)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 10)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Joe Abley (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Ken Simpson (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Hank Nussbacher (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Sean Donelan (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Sean Donelan (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Sean Donelan (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 09)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Sean Donelan (Aug 10)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Barry Shein (Aug 10)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Peter Corlett (Aug 11)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 11)
- fingerprinting and spam ID (was: Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam) Steven Champeon (Aug 11)
- Re: fingerprinting and spam ID (was: Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam) Ken Simpson (Aug 11)
- Re: fingerprinting and spam ID Petri Helenius (Aug 12)
- Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam Ken Simpson (Aug 11)