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Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam


From: Michael Nicks <mtnicks () kanren net>
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:02:12 -0500


I've had a a situation in the past that required this same application. I ended up using amavisd-new with custom views for incoming and outgoing mail. For spam originating from inside, it was dropped completely, for spam originating from the outside, subject was rewritten.

Hope this helps.
-Michael

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Michael Nicks
Network Engineer
KanREN
e: mtnicks () kanren net
o: +1-785-856-9800 x221
m: +1-913-378-6516

Hank Nussbacher wrote:

Back in 2002 I asked if anyone had a solution to block or rate limit
outgoing web based spam. Nothing came about from that thread. I have an
ISP that *wants* to stop the outgoing spam on an automatic basis and be
a good netizen. I would have hoped that 4 years later there would be
some technical solution from some hungry startup. Perhaps I have missed
it. What I have found so far is:

Detecting Outgoing Spam and Mail Bombing
http://www.brettglass.com/spam/paper.html
SMTP based mitigation - thing on HTTP/HTTPS

Stopping Outgoing Spam
http://research.microsoft.com/~joshuago/outgoingspam-final-submit.pdf
Research paper - nothing practical

Throttling Outgoing SPAM for Webmail Services
http://www.ceas.cc/papers-2005/164.pdf
Research paper - nothing practical

ISPs look inward to stop spam - Network World
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2004/071204carrispspam.html
Bottom line - no solution

So I am trying once again.  Hopefully someone has some magic dust
this time around.

Thanks,
Hank Nussbacher
http://www.interall.co.il



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