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Re: Tidbit from DirectNIC


From: "Justin W. Pauler" <jwpauler () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:09:57 -0500


Just to reinforce, I'm a ham, and I've been working with the Louisiana
Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness since the days
before the storm, at least for some parishes, we're the only link in
or out of the area.

On 9/3/05, Peter Dambier <peter () peter-dambier de> wrote:

The important thing is to let those guys play with their toys as long as there
is no emergency and as long as no one believes there will ever be one.

Given an emergency, those guys turn into proffessionals immediately and their
toys become valuable tools.

The same tools in the hand of inexperienced are worthless toys.

Let them erect their antennas and let them build their repeaters everywhere.
They will never harm anybody. Those grumbeling tv sets can be dealed with :)

And dont pose rules on them. Emergencies dont obey rules either

Peter Dambier, DL2FBA
and Karin

Have a HAM for dinner :)


Michael Greb wrote:
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:54:10AM -0400, Steven Champeon wrote:

on Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:44:49PM +0100, Michael.Dillon () btradianz com wrote:

-----snip-----
Fox News is reporting that there is an operation underway to refill
chillers at the Bell South building down the street to keep phone service
available to much of the southeast United States. That is apparently where
all the firetrucks are going to in the area, in case you were wondering.
-----snip-----

It is interesting to note that it is possible to bring in diesel and water
to resupply BellSouth yet it is impossible to bring in water and food for
the residents, not to mention a fleet of small boats that could have
prevented thousands from dying trapped inside their attics.

1) potable water is probably somewhat different from the water used in
  chillers or fire trucks

2) phone service is, IMHO, one helpful pre-requisite to providing
  emergency care and disaster relief


Last year after Ivan phone service played no roll in emergency care or
disaster relief.  Ham Radio operators, myself included, were stationed
at each shelter, the Red Cross and Salvation Army command centers, the
county EOC, hospitals, and some assigned to shadow important people such
as the mayor whereever they went.  Every agency participating had a
presence at the county EOC.  When an ambulance was needed at a shelter,
it was called for via ham radio, an operator at the EOC passed the message
to the ambulance dispatcher in the same room, they called the ambulance
out.

Those in their home and not in a shelter had no way to call for help but
the city and county themselves did not rely on phone service for
anything.  This is why the federal government gives so much valuable
radio spectrum to Ham Radio, more then any other service, the principal
purpose of Ham Radio is to provide emergency communications in times of
need.



3) the pictures I've been seeing have been full of boats, many of them
  thrown up on land a few hundred feet from their berths

Not saying that the utter failure of DHS as an organization isn't on
evidence here. Just saying that it's one thing to feed and water a plant
and quite another to feed and water a human being, let alone tens of
thousands of them.


Michael Greb


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